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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MNinTX,
The lessor of two evils is still evil.  I don&#039;t support Obama or McCain.  Time to get right with your thoughts and vote for real change.  Read the Constitution and let it guide you to the one that takes the oath of office seriously.  The decision is yours and I won&#039;t say who you should vote for or how to think but those that take the oath to support and defend the Constitution should be judged on how well they hold to the oath they take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MNinTX,<br />
The lessor of two evils is still evil.  I don&#8217;t support Obama or McCain.  Time to get right with your thoughts and vote for real change.  Read the Constitution and let it guide you to the one that takes the oath of office seriously.  The decision is yours and I won&#8217;t say who you should vote for or how to think but those that take the oath to support and defend the Constitution should be judged on how well they hold to the oath they take.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My vote cast in early voting was for Chuck Baldwin. The Republicrat monopoly on our electoral system is getting tiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote cast in early voting was for Chuck Baldwin. The Republicrat monopoly on our electoral system is getting tiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant&#039; vote for Ron Paul in FL, so per his recommendation, I voted for Chuck Baldwin, who has the views closest to him.

Here&#039;s hoping for more momentum for the third parties after this election!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant&#8217; vote for Ron Paul in FL, so per his recommendation, I voted for Chuck Baldwin, who has the views closest to him.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping for more momentum for the third parties after this election!</p>
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		<title>By: tj</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I are voting for Bob Barr in Texas. 

Best hope in my mind is that millions of conservatives jump ship and go for Barr or Baldwin. That will send the strongest message to the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I are voting for Bob Barr in Texas. </p>
<p>Best hope in my mind is that millions of conservatives jump ship and go for Barr or Baldwin. That will send the strongest message to the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: MNinTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>MNinTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I hate to ramble, but, one other thought, look at what Obama&#039;s friend Hugo Chavez to the election process in Venezuela.  How do you suppose that Conservatives come back from that? Is it worth the risk to elect someone like minded here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I hate to ramble, but, one other thought, look at what Obama&#8217;s friend Hugo Chavez to the election process in Venezuela.  How do you suppose that Conservatives come back from that? Is it worth the risk to elect someone like minded here?</p>
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		<title>By: MNinTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>MNinTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction on the last sentence- Conservative or Libertarian thought.. sorry..</description>
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		<title>By: MNinTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>MNinTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, hoping for a Goldwater to rise out of an Obama presidency is far too much of a risk.  Conservatives in  Euro-socialist countries have been looking for their &#039;Goldwater&#039; for decades after they taught their moderate Conservatives a lesson letting the socialists take over.  They said the same things many here are- teach them a lesson, they&#039;ll want us back.

I hate to tell you, but they may not.  Not in Norway, not in Denmark, heck, even in France and the UK, leaders we would consider Socialist here are mainstream there because they changed the discourse.  

&quot;Revolution&quot; movements and Conservative values don&#039;t go together in the modern world because Revolutions don&#039;t set up freedom, they change power structures.  As soon as you displace a power structure, a vacuum is created and someone who wants power- thus, the antithesis of Conservative values, steps into that vacuum.  

It is time, I believe, we take heed of Ayn Rand&#039;s warning about supporting political offshoots that not only don&#039;t have a chance of winning, that by not working within the system, you actually risk setting your own values back.  

Letting Obama win, no matter how you cut it, sets back Conservative and Libertarian values, and could, like the aforementioned countries, eliminate them from the political landscape.  People already worship the false Messiah that is Obama- imagine all these people with a religious like devotion and willingness to accept liberalism and all that comes with it- having power.  Look at what the Obmessiah has done to anyone who dares question him- the plumber or the reporter, imagine that with power.  Do you think Conservative or Liberal thought will be allowed to grow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, hoping for a Goldwater to rise out of an Obama presidency is far too much of a risk.  Conservatives in  Euro-socialist countries have been looking for their &#8216;Goldwater&#8217; for decades after they taught their moderate Conservatives a lesson letting the socialists take over.  They said the same things many here are- teach them a lesson, they&#8217;ll want us back.</p>
<p>I hate to tell you, but they may not.  Not in Norway, not in Denmark, heck, even in France and the UK, leaders we would consider Socialist here are mainstream there because they changed the discourse.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Revolution&#8221; movements and Conservative values don&#8217;t go together in the modern world because Revolutions don&#8217;t set up freedom, they change power structures.  As soon as you displace a power structure, a vacuum is created and someone who wants power- thus, the antithesis of Conservative values, steps into that vacuum.  </p>
<p>It is time, I believe, we take heed of Ayn Rand&#8217;s warning about supporting political offshoots that not only don&#8217;t have a chance of winning, that by not working within the system, you actually risk setting your own values back.  </p>
<p>Letting Obama win, no matter how you cut it, sets back Conservative and Libertarian values, and could, like the aforementioned countries, eliminate them from the political landscape.  People already worship the false Messiah that is Obama- imagine all these people with a religious like devotion and willingness to accept liberalism and all that comes with it- having power.  Look at what the Obmessiah has done to anyone who dares question him- the plumber or the reporter, imagine that with power.  Do you think Conservative or Liberal thought will be allowed to grow?</p>
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		<title>By: MNinTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>MNinTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Libertarian, I am sure you will agree that the most important thing is the defense of the Constitution of the United States, right?

What does the Constitution say about the role of the President? Let’s take a look. The President is Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. He appoints judges and cabinet positions and he negotiates treaties with other countries.

We still on the same page?

There is no doubt that McCain isn’t the perfect Conservative, heck, moderate is probably a stretch, but how does he fit into the role the Constitution prescribes. How does Obama- as left as one can get, fit into that same role?

Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces- who would our troops rather have in their foxhole?

Appoint ambassadors- who would most likely choose those who reflect America’s interests?

Appoint judges and cabinet members- who would get the advices and appoint to positions of those who are more likely to work towards goals you agree?

Negotiate treaties- who would more likely think of America first?

We all have doubts about McCain in one or more of those areas, but of course, I know you will agree that we have doubts about Obama in ALL of those areas.

Think about it like a football game. You don’t run for a touchdown on every play, sometimes you simply have to hold yardage, sometimes you make small plays to position yourself for a better move, sometimes you just play defense.

I understand some of you want to support Barr or Baldwin as you may believe they are more Conservative- even though it is mathematically impossible for either to win. You may believe this is the right thing to do to ‘teach Republicans a lesson’, but you are doing it at the wrong time.

Why is it that liberals focus on winning and getting power first, then they force their members to get in line. Conservatives have worked the opposite way. Who is gaining in power and who is losing? Teaching Republicans a lesson in 2006 left us where we are now. Why not take on the Lib’s strategy, win power and then force our representatives to get in line. We are good at the former, but we stink at the latter.

Wouldn’t you agree that if you don’t have the power, all the Conservative philosophy results in nothing more than coffee shop philosophy?

The choice is clear- McCain or Obama.. Apathy isn’t a choice, because the the world doesn’t stop for your apathy.

It is your play, do you play a short term defensive game for a while, positioning yourself for a better play, or do you give up and walk off the field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Libertarian, I am sure you will agree that the most important thing is the defense of the Constitution of the United States, right?</p>
<p>What does the Constitution say about the role of the President? Let’s take a look. The President is Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. He appoints judges and cabinet positions and he negotiates treaties with other countries.</p>
<p>We still on the same page?</p>
<p>There is no doubt that McCain isn’t the perfect Conservative, heck, moderate is probably a stretch, but how does he fit into the role the Constitution prescribes. How does Obama- as left as one can get, fit into that same role?</p>
<p>Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces- who would our troops rather have in their foxhole?</p>
<p>Appoint ambassadors- who would most likely choose those who reflect America’s interests?</p>
<p>Appoint judges and cabinet members- who would get the advices and appoint to positions of those who are more likely to work towards goals you agree?</p>
<p>Negotiate treaties- who would more likely think of America first?</p>
<p>We all have doubts about McCain in one or more of those areas, but of course, I know you will agree that we have doubts about Obama in ALL of those areas.</p>
<p>Think about it like a football game. You don’t run for a touchdown on every play, sometimes you simply have to hold yardage, sometimes you make small plays to position yourself for a better move, sometimes you just play defense.</p>
<p>I understand some of you want to support Barr or Baldwin as you may believe they are more Conservative- even though it is mathematically impossible for either to win. You may believe this is the right thing to do to ‘teach Republicans a lesson’, but you are doing it at the wrong time.</p>
<p>Why is it that liberals focus on winning and getting power first, then they force their members to get in line. Conservatives have worked the opposite way. Who is gaining in power and who is losing? Teaching Republicans a lesson in 2006 left us where we are now. Why not take on the Lib’s strategy, win power and then force our representatives to get in line. We are good at the former, but we stink at the latter.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t you agree that if you don’t have the power, all the Conservative philosophy results in nothing more than coffee shop philosophy?</p>
<p>The choice is clear- McCain or Obama.. Apathy isn’t a choice, because the the world doesn’t stop for your apathy.</p>
<p>It is your play, do you play a short term defensive game for a while, positioning yourself for a better play, or do you give up and walk off the field?</p>
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		<title>By: Paine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A vote for Bob Barr is a message to the Rep/Dem candidates.  2012 is only 4 years away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A vote for Bob Barr is a message to the Rep/Dem candidates.  2012 is only 4 years away.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vote libertarian.  they are the biggest third party, and one of the few third parties dedicated to the contsitution and the free market.  do it whether you believe in bob barr or not.  it&#039;s a vote for the party not the candidate.  he&#039;s not going to win anyway, but the more votes he gets the better the party is situated for the 2012 elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vote libertarian.  they are the biggest third party, and one of the few third parties dedicated to the contsitution and the free market.  do it whether you believe in bob barr or not.  it&#8217;s a vote for the party not the candidate.  he&#8217;s not going to win anyway, but the more votes he gets the better the party is situated for the 2012 elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Realitista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realitista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going with Charles Jay of the Boston Tea Party- he is the closest you will get to Ron Paul. Don&#039;t fret, just vote for someone you believe in- he&#039;s out there if you look hard enough. The more people do this the quicker we can fix things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going with Charles Jay of the Boston Tea Party- he is the closest you will get to Ron Paul. Don&#8217;t fret, just vote for someone you believe in- he&#8217;s out there if you look hard enough. The more people do this the quicker we can fix things.</p>
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		<title>By: jaqphule</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaqphule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, that&#039;s an easy question!

Just vote for no one. If we&#039;re very, very lucky, he just might win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, that&#8217;s an easy question!</p>
<p>Just vote for no one. If we&#8217;re very, very lucky, he just might win.</p>
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		<title>By: M. McMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post... except for the comment re: the Electoral College. Not supporting the electoral college seems to be the antithesis of what you are promoting. A popular vote will vest power in a single, majority institution whereas the electoral college forces a distribution of power across 51 voting entities (Stats + DC). It is the foundation of local politics, our representative system and is as fundamental a check and balance as the three branches of the federal government are intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post&#8230; except for the comment re: the Electoral College. Not supporting the electoral college seems to be the antithesis of what you are promoting. A popular vote will vest power in a single, majority institution whereas the electoral college forces a distribution of power across 51 voting entities (Stats + DC). It is the foundation of local politics, our representative system and is as fundamental a check and balance as the three branches of the federal government are intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadotek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadotek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Jim. Chuck Baldwin is the closest you&#039;re going to get to Ron Paul on the ballot. Of course, I may vote for Dr. Paul anyway. That&#039;s where my choice lies right now, between those two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Jim. Chuck Baldwin is the closest you&#8217;re going to get to Ron Paul on the ballot. Of course, I may vote for Dr. Paul anyway. That&#8217;s where my choice lies right now, between those two.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Leveroni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Leveroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party</description>
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