Comments on: Voters Say Let Barr and Nader in on the Debates http://www.politicallore.com/politics/election-2008/voters-say-let-barr-and-nader-in-on-the-debates/360 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:08:14 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Pennib http://www.politicallore.com/politics/election-2008/voters-say-let-barr-and-nader-in-on-the-debates/360/comment-page-1#comment-8574 Pennib Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:06:24 +0000 http://www.politicallore.com/?p=360#comment-8574 I grant that there are serious differences in the platforms of the two parties, the Green Party is known for it's support of governmental regulations affecting the environment, but the Libertarians have chosen a candidate that voted for (and yes, I've heard the reasoning) the Patriot Act, argueably one of the greatest destructions of our freedoms since the ALien and Sedition Acts. {Past record is a better indicator of future action than present rhetoric} I grant that there are serious differences in the platforms of the two parties, the Green Party is known for it’s support of governmental regulations affecting the environment, but the Libertarians have chosen a candidate that voted for (and yes, I’ve heard the reasoning) the Patriot Act, argueably one of the greatest destructions of our freedoms since the ALien and Sedition Acts. {Past record is a better indicator of future action than present rhetoric}

]]> By: Mario K M http://www.politicallore.com/politics/election-2008/voters-say-let-barr-and-nader-in-on-the-debates/360/comment-page-1#comment-8570 Mario K M Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:14:18 +0000 http://www.politicallore.com/?p=360#comment-8570 Mr. DemoPublican, Tear down that wall! Late 3rd parties in the debates. Mr. DemoPublican,

Tear down that wall! Late 3rd parties in the debates.

]]> By: Matt Alley http://www.politicallore.com/politics/election-2008/voters-say-let-barr-and-nader-in-on-the-debates/360/comment-page-1#comment-8568 Matt Alley Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:46:56 +0000 http://www.politicallore.com/?p=360#comment-8568 Pennib - you don't see any difference between Nader and Barr? You obviously haven't done much homework. I support both of their efforts, and while there are definite similarities (such as a foreign policy that doesn't include preemptive violence, ending the illogical "war on drugs," etc.) there are major differences in their platforms. Personally, I don't see how the "tiny government" crowd has any real solutions to some major problems, such as environmental destruction, that are results of our destructively large population. Anyway, you should really research the platforms of these two candidacies. Regardless of whether Nader, Barr, McKinney, Baldwin, Keyes are "similar," I think anyone that can pull in 1% or above, should absolutely be allowed into the televised debates. Until we have an election process that is rooted in fairness and justice, I don't know how anyone can even consider this a democracy. We need instant run-off elections with open debates! For anyone who is interested, write to the Commision on Presidential Debates and to Google, asking that they stand up for democracy and allow all candidates polling at 1% and above into the debates. Also, one final rant....whie I support the Libertarian Party much more than the major parties, I have seroius doubts about their nomination of Barr. I mean, the guy was voting for the Patriot Act just a couple of years ago. He was also supporting the war on drugs very recnetly. His voting record is very suspect, but he clamis to be a true Libertarian, so I don't know. Pennib – you don’t see any difference between Nader and Barr? You obviously haven’t done much homework. I support both of their efforts, and while there are definite similarities (such as a foreign policy that doesn’t include preemptive violence, ending the illogical “war on drugs,” etc.) there are major differences in their platforms. Personally, I don’t see how the “tiny government” crowd has any real solutions to some major problems, such as environmental destruction, that are results of our destructively large population. Anyway, you should really research the platforms of these two candidacies. Regardless of whether Nader, Barr, McKinney, Baldwin, Keyes are “similar,” I think anyone that can pull in 1% or above, should absolutely be allowed into the televised debates. Until we have an election process that is rooted in fairness and justice, I don’t know how anyone can even consider this a democracy. We need instant run-off elections with open debates! For anyone who is interested, write to the Commision on Presidential Debates and to Google, asking that they stand up for democracy and allow all candidates polling at 1% and above into the debates. Also, one final rant….whie I support the Libertarian Party much more than the major parties, I have seroius doubts about their nomination of Barr. I mean, the guy was voting for the Patriot Act just a couple of years ago. He was also supporting the war on drugs very recnetly. His voting record is very suspect, but he clamis to be a true Libertarian, so I don’t know.

]]> By: June http://www.politicallore.com/politics/election-2008/voters-say-let-barr-and-nader-in-on-the-debates/360/comment-page-1#comment-8567 June Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:44:26 +0000 http://www.politicallore.com/?p=360#comment-8567 oops! That should have been www.fairvote.com oops! That should have been http://www.fairvote.com

]]> By: June http://www.politicallore.com/politics/election-2008/voters-say-let-barr-and-nader-in-on-the-debates/360/comment-page-1#comment-8566 June Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:43:06 +0000 http://www.politicallore.com/?p=360#comment-8566 That was John Anderson who got into the debates. And you forgot to mention Ross Perot. It was the boost that Perot got by being in the debates that caused the Republicrats to make sure no one other than their candidates would ever have that chance again. And things are getting even worse. Now the 800 pound gorillas are pushing ballot access "reform" that has an open primary followed by a top two run-off-- a system that guaranties that only Demopublicans will make it to the general election ballot. What we really need is ranked choice voting in both primaries and general elections so that the parties are free to choose who best represents their platform while allowing voters to vote their conscience in the gneral without worrying about the spoiler effect. Visit www.fairvte.com for more info on ranked choice voting. That was John Anderson who got into the debates. And you forgot to mention Ross Perot. It was the boost that Perot got by being in the debates that caused the Republicrats to make sure no one other than their candidates would ever have that chance again.

And things are getting even worse. Now the 800 pound gorillas are pushing ballot access “reform” that has an open primary followed by a top two run-off– a system that guaranties that only Demopublicans will make it to the general election ballot.

What we really need is ranked choice voting in both primaries and general elections so that the parties are free to choose who best represents their platform while allowing voters to vote their conscience in the gneral without worrying about the spoiler effect.

Visit http://www.fairvte.com for more info on ranked choice voting.

]]> By: Pennib http://www.politicallore.com/politics/election-2008/voters-say-let-barr-and-nader-in-on-the-debates/360/comment-page-1#comment-8565 Pennib Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:01:37 +0000 http://www.politicallore.com/?p=360#comment-8565 I'd like to see Baldwin and Keyes in the debates as well. I don't see much difference between Barr and Nader. I’d like to see Baldwin and Keyes in the debates as well. I don’t see much difference between Barr and Nader.

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